welcome to the neighborhood

[simple man]

All of the good done letting those nice Muslims into the "Ground Zero " site has taken effect. Some guy has announced plans to open a gay bar on a near-by site. I bet this gets more support than usual for this. Seems like just what the open minded folks need.
"Conservative humorist/provocateur Greg Gutfeld has announced that he intends to build a gay bar next door to the planned Islamic center on Manhattan's Park Place that's become known as the Ground Zero mosque. "This is not a joke," he says mockingly. "I?ve already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance." James Joyner calls it "an inspired idea" and Megan McArdle says"

The Ground Zero Gay Bar | Mother Jones
I guess they will "get what they put in" perhaps what they deserve.

PS if one of the mods has time, I'd like to get on the religiion forum.

[R13]

As soon as I seen "Greg Gutfield", it all made sense, he's annoying enough on Red Eye to do this. But if it's legit, let him. I expected someone to pull something similar though, so much for this possibly being a world icon with other places next to the Cordoba House.

[simple man]

If you read some of the comments with that story, some of the folks hitting the clubs claim that the whole scene isn't that far from several different kinds of entertainment. Really shouldn't make any difference, if those comments were correct- ya gotta admit, it's a funny line.

[TheBeast]

so much for this possibly being a world icon with other places next to the Cordoba House.

That would be ok in theory but this is being built as a victory tower on the spot where they had their greatest victory so far. All you have to do is a little research on the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf that is wanting to build the mosque. He is a supporter of Hamas, says that the U.S. was responsible for the 9-11 attacks, said Bin Laden was American made, and thinks America should have Sharia law. If you don't know Sharia law is absolutely nuts. He also refuses to say where he is getting the $100 million to build the mosque. And why is this guy being sent on a tour of the middle east by the State Department at our expense????

Building this at this location is akin to building a Budhist Temple or Shinto Shrine at Pearl Harbor on the land adjacent to the USS Arizona memorial.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Mi...#ixzz0w9vI8Gqq

[R13]

That would be ok in theory but this is being built as a victory tower on the spot where they had their greatest victory so far. All you have to do is a little research on the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf that is wanting to build the mosque. He is a supporter of Hamas, says that the U.S. was responsible for the 9-11 attacks, said Bin Laden was American made, and thinks America should have Sharia law. If you don't know Sharia law is absolutely nuts. He also refuses to say where he is getting the $100 million to build the mosque. And why is this guy being sent on a tour of the middle east by the State Department at our expense????

Building this at this location is akin to building a Budhist Temple or Shinto Shrine at Pearl Harbor on the land adjacent to the USS Arizona memorial.

Mischief in Manhattan

That's your warped opinion on it that holds no water, it's nothing like that, but of course I expect something like that from you.

1) No he isn't a supporter of them.
2) He's said the US policies had a hand in 911, I completely agree with that and think it hand a huge hand in it.
3) He is, I've said that on here many times, we've made him huge and fueled their cause.
4) Never said that.
5) And yes, he has said the means of which the money would be raised.


Yes, I agree, it would be around the same thing. Both have nothing to do with the attacks and aren't responsible, that's about the worst comparison I've seen yet and that's saying a lot from all of the ones made up by people since this thing started.

[TheBeast]

1) Yes he is. Exclusive: Ground Zero Mosque Imam’s Radical Connections Publications Family Security Matters

2) Imam ABDUL RAUF: United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.

3) Imam ABDUL RAUF: Because we have been an accessory to a lot of ? of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it ? in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA. And you are just as retarded as anyone else that says that.

4) From his own book: In sub-chapter America: A Sharia-Compliant State, Rauf states ?(w)hat I am demonstrating is that the American political structure is Shariah compliant, for a ?state inhabited predominantly by Muslims neither defines nor makes it synonymous with an Islamic state. It can become truly Islamic only by virtues of a conscious application of the sociopolitical tenets of Islam to the life of the national, and by an incorporation of those tenets in the basic constitution of the country.‟ By the same token, a state that does incorporate such sociopolitical tenets has become a de facto Islamic state even if there are no Muslims in name living there, for it expresses the ideals of the good society according to Islamic principles. For America to score even higher on the ?Islamic‟ or ?Shariah Compliance‟ scale, America would need to do two things: invite the voices of all religions to join the dialogue in shaping the nation‟s practical life, and allow religious communities more leeway to judge among themselves according to their own laws? 86).

5) The Cordoba Initiative's website does not specify, however, whether any of those organizations has contributed financially to the cultural center project.

The organization's website solicits donations by directing donors to a PayPal account, and does not require disclosure of identity other than payment information and an e-mail address.



The name Cordoba derives from "a city in Spain where a conquering Muslim army replaced a church with a mosque. This name is a very direct historical indication that the ground zero mosque is all about conquest and thus an assertion of Islamist triumphalism which we should not tolerate."



Just go ahead and admit it, it doesn't matter what it is as long as it's against christianity you are all for it.

[simple man]

Like I said-"There goes the neighborhood."

[R13]

1) Yes he is. Exclusive: Ground Zero Mosque Imam?s Radical Connections Publications Family Security Matters

2) Imam ABDUL RAUF: United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.

3) Imam ABDUL RAUF: Because we have been an accessory to a lot of ? of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it ? in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA. And you are just as retarded as anyone else that says that.

4) From his own book: In sub-chapter America: A Sharia-Compliant State, Rauf states ?(w)hat I am demonstrating is that the American political structure is Shariah compliant, for a ?state inhabited predominantly by Muslims neither defines nor makes it synonymous with an Islamic state. It can become truly Islamic only by virtues of a conscious application of the sociopolitical tenets of Islam to the life of the national, and by an incorporation of those tenets in the basic constitution of the country.‟ By the same token, a state that does incorporate such sociopolitical tenets has become a de facto Islamic state even if there are no Muslims in name living there, for it expresses the ideals of the good society according to Islamic principles. For America to score even higher on the ?Islamic‟ or ?Shariah Compliance‟ scale, America would need to do two things: invite the voices of all religions to join the dialogue in shaping the nation‟s practical life, and allow religious communities more leeway to judge among themselves according to their own laws? 86).

5) The Cordoba Initiative's website does not specify, however, whether any of those organizations has contributed financially to the cultural center project.

The organization's website solicits donations by directing donors to a PayPal account, and does not require disclosure of identity other than payment information and an e-mail address.



The name Cordoba derives from "a city in Spain where a conquering Muslim army replaced a church with a mosque. This name is a very direct historical indication that the ground zero mosque is all about conquest and thus an assertion of Islamist triumphalism which we should not tolerate."



Just go ahead and admit it, it doesn't matter what it is as long as it's against christianity you are all for it.

1) No, he still doesn't and your yet another right wing blog doesn't prove that one damn bit.

2) I agree with him fully, am I a muslim terrorist? Of course not. He absolutely right and anyone is a fool if they don't think US foreign polices had a major hand in 911. He's not saying we deserved what happened to us, but we are at fault too, that's true.

3) What's wrong about it? We made him a superstar in this whole thing, instead of spreading the blame out to where it actually was, we needed a boogie man to find and chase. Now he's a million times bigger than he ever should have been.

4)???? Still trying to figure out where that says he wants Sharia law here?

5) Huh?

That's for small donations and Paypal is subject to regulations just like a bank would be. Every transaction over the internet has a trail leading up to it, if there was an investigation, they could find where any of the came from...esp. any significant amount.


Cordoba was a place where all religions lived together and was one of the most advanced cities in the world, that mosque was then later a roman catholic church too...your point? That name was dropped anyway, it's called Park51 because of those same accusations.

This isn't against Christianity, it's about freedom of religion and tolerance, which I'm all for.